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 Subject :Long time googlebaser now ranking LOW despite High Data Quality.. 24-01-2012 01:35:22 
BristarUK
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Joined: 24-12-2010 11:51:31
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Hi Garry,

 

I have had a worsening problem over the past 6 months, that has come to a head and I now need to solve this. I was hoping you could allay some fears and perhaps point me in the right direction.

 

My problem: On very specific keywords, despirte being the cheapest, and the closest geographically, and the closets match word for word in the title, most of my products do not rank on the first page of google search where as 6 months ago I was pretty much at the top for most of my products.

 

Even on products that I rank on the first page of google organically, I cannot rank in product search unless i set the codes up to go into the compare prices sections. And when I get into the compare sections i rank at the bottom of those, again despite being the cheapest and where I i used to rank 1st 6 months ago. I have looked at all the online info re this and I am doing everything correctly, plus your feed is setup to deliver way more info than anyone else does, and meets the positive requirements to get a boost through deliberate data stuffing (white hat method).

 

So my thoughts are this:

 

Perhaps google has taken a disliking to my site, although I doubt this as I rank high in organic search.

 

Perhaps goole has taken a dislike to the IP address that the data is sent from... Does the data go to them via yours or my server????

 

Perhaps there is a simple item missing in the feed which google is looking for, perhaps a better title, description, or maybe it doesn't like the generator, or the store image or title (Yours not mine), or maybe i'm missing the company name. See below

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
        <rss version="2.0" xmlns:g="http://base.google.com/ns/1.0" xmlns:r="http://base.google.com/cns/1.0">
            <channel>
                <title> http://www.aquanauts.co.uk/</title>
                <description>product</description>
                <link> http://www.aquanauts.co.uk/ </link>
                <lastbuilddate>2012-01-24T10:42:32+00:00</lastbuilddate>
                <generator>Red Mystic FeedCreator 1.3.21</generator>
                <geometry>
                    <productcount>197</productcount>
                    <fragments>1</fragments>
                    <fragment>1</fragment>
                    <fragmentsize>250</fragmentsize>
                </geometry>
                <image>
                    <url>http://www.aquanauts.co.uk/administrator/components/com_redmystic/images/logo_46.png</url>
                    <title>Virtuemart RSS Feeder</title>
                    <link>http://www.aquanauts.co.uk/</link>
                    <description>product</description>
                </image>
                <storedetails>
                    <store_name>Aquanauts Ltd</store_name>
                    <company_name></company_name>
                    <address_1>88 Vauxhall St</address_1>
                    <address_2>The Barbican</address_2>
                    <city>Plymouth</city>
                    <country>GBR</country>
                    <state>EN</state>
                    <zip>PL4 0EY</zip>
                    <phone>+44 1752 228825</phone>
                    <lng>-4.1351101</lng>
                    <lat>50.3687035</lat>
                </storedetails>

 

I'm really at a loss and was hoping that seeing as though you see a lot more of your feeds than I do, you could perhaps point me in the right direction.

What I can't understand is that I used to rank 1st... and now it's gone very bad.

 

It was this search on google UK shopping for a Scubapro Xtek Donut Wing that maid me realise just how bad it was. I rank at the bottom of the page in compare prices tab. It's like this for most of my products.

 

Can you help?

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=scubapro+xtek+donot+wing&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t#hl=en&q=scubapro+xtek+donut+wing&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=5269l5985l0l6348l2l2l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbm=shop&source=og&sa=N&tab=wf&ei=hZYeT82-McOa-gbkp

 

 

 

 

 

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 Subject :Re:Long time googlebaser now ranking LOW despite High Data Quality.. 24-01-2012 12:23:54 
Garry
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Joined: 15-02-2009 10:43:06
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Location: North Carolina, United States
 

Hi,

All I can really tell you is that there are other sites that rank fine so that I don't believe it's redmystic that causing the problems.

 

why does your url look like this

scubapro-x-tec-single-or-double-wing-only-2

Shouldn't that be donut? That's a key word

 

 

Personally, I'd compare all the known things google is going to compare and see what your competitors are doing differently.

 

Hope that helps

 

Cheers,

Garry

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 Subject :Re:Long time googlebaser now ranking LOW despite High Data Quality.. 25-01-2012 04:32:24 
BristarUK
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Joined: 24-12-2010 11:51:31
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Ok maybe I didn't give the best example, but i'm having this problem on every product out of 200 where as before i generally ranked 1st or at least in the first 4.

 

Ok I've ran a test and when I submit the short description I get higher rankings than when I submit the long description, but then every item has errors as I have the MPN and GTIN codes in the long description so they aren't pulled when I set it to submit the short description.

 

So perhaps my problem comes down to simple keyword density in the description, as apparently google shopping uses only the data that you provide via the feed for ranking.

 

This would also explain why it is a more recent problem as I have been deliberately making descriptions more comprehensive with less keyword stuffing in order to improve in organic rankings.

 

Is there anyway to set redmystic to pull the MPNs, ISBNs & GTINs etc from the long description but actually submit the short description to google?

 

 

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